I’ll start off with the two places that I visited on my last trip to Houston and revisited this time, but unfortunately, neither measured up. The Breakfast Klub’s biscuits were sublime and soft in ’07, but I went twice and both times got a dry biscuit that was flaky but not tender. One of the two days nothing on my EMPT plate was hot other than the potatoes. And on Saturday, the biscuit wasn’t that fresh – the line was out the door, and yet the biscuit tastes a few hours old. I don’t get it.
The restaurant inside the Inn at the Ballpark – I really like that hotel, by the way; lots of character but no kitsch – was also disappointing. Service was slow, shrimp on the shrimp BLT didn’t seem to have been fully thawed before they were cooked, the “prosciutto” on the chicken breast sandwich turned out to be American ham (which I despise), and the homemade potato chips – another highlight of my last trip – were greasy and kind of stale for both meals. The quality of the ingredients was still generally high, and they comped the chicken sandwich when I asked about the prosciutto/ham mixup even though I insisted at the time that I didn’t want them to comp the meal and was just confused about whether I’d gotten what I ordered. But it wasn’t the same as it was two years ago.
I guess I’ll start at the bottom and work my way up … I was on I-10 from San Antonio to Houston, which is roughly as populated as Montana, so I ended up grabbing a meal at Whataburger, supposedly Texas’ answer to In-n-Out. I suppose the question was, “Can we come up with a fast-food chain that’s half as good as In-n-Out which in and of itself isn’t quite as good as Five Guys?” (Insert “Yes We Can!” sound bite here.) Suitable for food emergencies.
I wanted to go to Thelma’s BBQ, just a few blocks from the hotel, but when I called to check their hours I found out that they were closed for renovations after a restaurant fire a few weeks earlier. (The message thanked people for their prayers; if people are praying for the restaurant, that must be some good Q.) The concierge at the hotel redirected me to Pappas B-B-Q, which was adequate but nothing special. The brisket was a little dry and desperately needed the sauce; the spicy rice wasn’t really that spicy; the lima beans were giant (for whatever reason I expected baby limas, one of my favorite southern dishes) and cooked to baby-food consistency. The sausage was good, but again not that spicy.
I had better Q at PitMaster BBQ in the Woodlands area a few days later. Even though Texas is brisket country, they’re known for their “Memphis-style” pork shoulder and pork ribs. I’m not entirely sure what that means, but the pulled pork was very good – extremely moist and smoky, although the rub didn’t impart much flavor. Their fried okra was just-fried and not too greasy; their baked beans were well above-average, white beans that still had some tooth with a tangy-sweet sauce that I thought had apple juice in it (I asked, no apple juice – although I think that could be a great flavor to add to baked beans). And then there was the “Texas Toast” – one thick slice of white sandwich bread, grilled on one side. If anyone knows the purpose of this, let me know. White sandwich bread is kind of a waste of wheat. Across the street from PitMaster is an “Italian-Style Ice Cream and Coffee” shop called Kremi that I would have tried if I’d had time; if anyone has a chance to check it out, I’d like a report. Houston isn’t a place in which I’d expect to find great gelato, but like my man Joaquin Andujar said, youneverknow.
Pho Saigon is a local chain of Vietnamese restaurants, and I’m not sure what to say about it. I’ve had Vietnamese food dozens of times, and it’s always the same. I don’t think I’ve ever had bad Vietnamese food – I usually go with pho or bun – and I can only think of one time I had really amazing Vietnamese food, at Pho Quyen in Pinellas Park, Florida. Pho Saigon’s bun was … the same as everyone else’s. About the only remarkable thing was that the vegetables served on the side (carrots, cucumbers, bean sprouts) were exceptionally fresh, like they’d just been sliced.
Last get was dessert – I passed a Ritters Frozen Custard on the way to see Matt Purke and banged a U-turn because, frankly, frozen custard shouldn’t be passed. Turns out that Ritters is a chain – not sure how I missed it – and, even better, they now have a location in Surprise, Arizona. The texture was absolutely amazing – that’s probably as close to perfect as you’ll find in frozen custard – and the cake batter flavor (which, I admit, freaks me out a little) was dead on. Their most popular flavor, “Turtle Something,” is a caramel custard with pieces of chocolate shell and pecans; turtle ice cream really needs fudge or some other kind of chocolate, since chocolate shell 1) is so hard that it doesn’t melt readily in the mouth and 2) isn’t really chocolate anyway.
Sorry to hear Whataburger disappointed. After many many tests, I’ve found I prefer Whataburger to In-n-Out. I suggest giving Whataburger another shot next time you are in the area as I’ve found that for whatever reason some locations pale in comparison to the norm. When you hit up Thelma’s, make sure you get a pulled pork sandwich, it’s the best I’ve ever had.
Try Taste of Texas off I-10 (west) near the toll road. The best steakhouse in the country.
Sad to hear the Breakfast Klub disappointed. I’ve recommended it to friends but haven’t been there in a couple of years. Empire Cafe on Westheimer is an excellent breakfast choice. The Pappas family owns many restaurants of different types — seafood, Mexican, Q, burgers — that are synonymous with “adequate but nothing special.” Can’t believe they were recommended by a concierge.
Sir, how dare you blaspheme the name of the almighty Whataburger!
But honestly, I’m very sad to hear that Whataburger disappointed you. It’s a landmark around our neck of the woods, and I know that I am a serious Whataburger fanatic.
Next time: double Whataburger with cheese, tomato, lettuce, jalepenos and grilled onions. If you don’t like it, I’ll mail you reimbursement.
Having done my undergrad in Texas, I am familiar with Whataburger and the Pappas chains. I have to say I have never heard the In-n-Out comparison. I’ve never been to an In-n-Out, but at least in Dallas, Whataburger was considered a Jack in the Box equivalent, i.e. low on an already low end of the food chain. The Pappas chains, on the other hand, I think can be better than adequate, and toward the top of the casual dining chain restaurant spectrum. Surely not up to the standards of Ruth’s Chris, but far better than Bennigans or Fridays, or Chilis or Humperdinks or any of those types.
When I lived in Texas, I always assumed the white bread – and sometimes it was just plain old wonderbread – was a napkin supplement, to help get the sauce off your fingers.
Having lived in the heart of Whataburger country for some time (Corpus Christi), I’ll have to hazard a guess that you just ate at a subpar one. They’re really quite good for what they are. The chicken strips with the cream gravy are awesome. Also a good place for late night drunken munchies, as most locations are 24 hours. Pappas doesn’t really do it for me for Q. If I’m going for chain BBQ, I’ll take Spring Creek or Dickeys ahead of them.
Whataburger is really no comparison to In-N-Out regardless of what location you go to in my opinion. It’s akin to eating at a BK. There aren’t any good “chain” burger joints in Texas that I have found (there are some local specific). Although they now have a 5 Guys in Dallas and are trying to copy the In-N-Out model with MooYah and a couple of other places. If coming to Texas again, this is actually a well researched list (http://www.texasmonthly.com/magazine/bbq) of good BBQ places and rightfully excludes chains such as Spring Creek, Dickey’s, Rudy’s (which I think is okay) and Pappas. In Houston the only place I look forward to is Lupe Tortillas. Always good, but I always eat it after a few cervezas so may not be a good judge.
I’ve been to a few Whataburgers and never left satisfied. I don’t see the In N Out comparison.
I doubt Whataburger was Texas’ “answer to In N Out” as they were started at almost the same time. I love Whataburger, but I am from the south and have found we can be biased on this subject.
I am half way surprised you haven’t ever eaten Ritter’s. I approve mightly.
Next time you’re in San Antonio and looking for dessert, try Brindles ice cream (NW SA). Love it!
I agree with the favorable Whataburger comments above. They’re my favorite fast food burger joint.
i’ve eaten both many times so maybe it’s my west coast bias but in-n-out’s burgers are better than five guys, though five guys do have better fries (it kills me to say that). double-doubles are also
just out of curiosity, if you were to use the 20-80 scale for fast food, how would you rate a double-double vs. a five guys cheeseburger?
Oh also, I asked my ex-girlfriend about Pho Quyen, because she grew up down there. And she said there are a few of them in Tampa as well as the Pinellas Park location (which is right next to her Korean church, apparently lots of asian influence in that area). She asked why, and I told her that you had said it was the best Vietnamese food you’d had. And her exact response was “ewww… that’s a very dirty restaurant”
She suggested a much better Vietnamese place called “mekong” in the same area. If you are ever down there again.
LOL at the Whataburger to In N Out comp. I never understood how good In N Out was until I couldn’t get any (i.e. when I was at school in Texas).
That piece of white bread/Texas Toast is for… I’m not really sure but it somehow enhanced the BBQ for me (weird, I know).
I’ll also note that I-10 from San Antonio westward is probably less populated than a typical Marlins game.
What did you order at Pho Quyen in Pinellas Park? It’s only about 45 minutes from me and if there are some good eats, I really need to hit that place up.
I went to In-N-Out Burger in Las vegas last weekend. The comp between In-N-Out and Five Guys that are way different. I feel that Five Guys has a advantage because of better fries and good thick burger. But In-n-Out burger wasnt that bad when i ate. I had to order 3 burgers next time beacuse one burger wasnt enough to statifiy you. just my two cents.
Keith,
Is there like a book or a video that I can watch to increase my “scouting knowledge?” I know those won’t make me a scout, that isn’t what I am looking for. I am simply looking to broaden my baseball horizons.
What exactly is Pho supposed to be? I hit up a Pho shop near me in Maryland and had a fantastic bowl of soup, but I do not know that it was great Pho. Any info on what makes a good pho and what I should be looking for?
I lived in Houston for 20 years and now live in San Francisco. I grew up on Whataburger; I agree the burgers can be great or merely OK. Whataburger’s chicken strips lunchbox with cream gravy, fries, and Texas toast is amazing, on the other hand — dump lots of black pepper into the gravy. I ate many hundreds of breakfast burritos there, too, which are awesome (they chop up the fried hash browns and put them inside). Many burger-fiends swear by Becks Prime, a Houston-only institution making mesquite-smoked burgers, chicken, and swordfish-steak sandwiches. My top Houston burger is the Bean Burger at Mama’s Cafe on Westheimer in southwest Houston. Melted sharp cheddar, refried beans, crushed Fritos, salsa and pico. Juicy, spicy, hearty, salty, and utterly mind-blowing. Have tried in vain to make it myself; can’t quite get it.
Other food I miss from Houston: chicken-fried steak, kolaches, Shipley warm glazed donuts, Cafe Express pesto, Treebeards fried chicken and dirty rice, Thai and Vietnamese food like I’ve never found in California… and the list goes on.
Wait, so you’ve been to Houston twice recently and haven’t eaten at any Pappas’ related establishment? Surprising to me and unfortunate for you.
Justin: I ate at Pappas. It’s in the paragraph that starts by talking about Thelma’s.
Sorry, don’t know how I missed that. I would recommend Pappadeux next time you go. Pappas Bros. steakhouse is excellent but I know you’re not the biggest beef fan in the world so take it for what it’s worth.